I agree using Worth has disadvantages. Also if most people are going to midtown (which Id argue given the census data I show isnt the case) then there is nothing in the way of this with the new routing. Go for a More complicated than it needs to be. It will cost less. Messing that up is messing a lot of commuters daily commute. [21], This underground station serves local and express trains in a two-level layout with two island platforms. And also, what will take the (B)s place as the Brighton Express? This would be the beginning of the IND plan which would ultimately propose extending a branch of the 6th Ave Subway through Williamsburg and down Utica Ave. The tracks are outlined by a pattern in the ceiling on top of the four trackways at the Utica Avenue station; therefore it appears that there are four trackways and two island platforms running diagonally across the ceiling in the center. The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. It is actually located between Schenectady and Utica Avenues and the two exits lead to the middle of the block, several feet from the actual cross street. Youre forgetting one thing though when you switched the 3 and 5 terminals. On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. 10. Passangers want a train for the East and West Sides.By switching the 3 and 5 youre forcing passangers to make a crossover at Franklin when they could easily just have a one seat ride from Utica or Flatbush Av. From the South 4th St station to Eastern Parkway is another 3 miles which would parallel the existing J/M/Z trains. While cost is an obvious reason for building an elevated over a subway there are also geological concerns in this area as the land through which Utica Ave runs has a very high water table and very sandy soil. [17] On August 23, 1920, the Eastern Parkway Line was extended from Atlantic Avenue to Crown HeightsUtica Avenue, with the Utica Avenue station opening at this time. The 5 train doesnt run in Brooklyn on late nights and weekends. The IRT built their Utica Ave station west of Utica Ave with turnouts in the track walls so that a branch could split. Then Utica can fulfill both roles but as of now the only important section is south of Eastern Parkway. Trains descending the ramp can access either the local or express track.[22]. There is another part of the IND plan which, as far as I can tell, no one has figured out or brought up yet. This staircase leads up to a small mezzanine where there is a token booth and turnstiles. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. The point is that anything involving using an extension of B Division is more complicated, for no reason, than just extending the IRT. Its smaller for the same reason an Olds Runabout is smaller than a Model T: the technological limitations of the day. Granted it eventually meets up with all nine of those services, just not in the big pile-up. The transit desert is along Utica Ave south of Eastern Parkway. want to either go to Midtown West or Midtown East. The Fulton route would have a bottleneck closer in at the crossings around Hoyt-Schermerhorn. station. Touring: F train to East Broadway. A BMT/IND line would cost more because its farther away, meaning more track mileage and a bigger cost, possibly raising the Metrocard fare to $3.00 for one ride. This leaves the possibility of resurrecting the Worth St Line, a branch off the 8th Ave local that would split south of Canal St and head east via Worth St and East Broadway. Kind of surprising the Fulton line was left out of it. 2- rebuild the Eastern Pkwy Station so that there are provisions for the line to pass through. South 4 St Passenger service: Never completed. and Park Aves commuter train viaduct looks good all the time. 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In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. There is also sporadic 2 and 5 service during rush hours. Using the IRT as the basis for a Utica Avenue line is much more feasible. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius However, if such a public-private partnership could be established and developers enlisted to build the stations then a couple more could be added. At Utica Avenue, provisions were made for a transfer to the proposed Utica Ave line. And reworking Lafayette/Atlantic and Montague is all extra card shuffling that wont help Utica Ave riders anymore when they could just take the IRT express AS IS and be done with it. Given that the L is now the busier of the two lines and needs relief, badly, it would be much more sensible IMO to go east across E 7 St to stations at Tompkins Square Park, Metropolitan/Bedford, Hope/Union (G) (L), Humboldt/Montrose (L), and Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), to provide a faster alternative to the L. I dont really think theres much value in duplicating Broadway services just because S 4 St exists. Also as Vanshookenraggen stated, the IND Utica Av Station will have to be teared up and relocated. on Jamaica Ave to burrow the Broadway El into Fulton Lines station. subways or open cut sections. That gives you much more cacapity to work with than just the 10 tph you be stuck with via your plan (assuming you mean to have it be the Queens Blvd branch of 2nd Ave). I have two comments. There are no flaws in this plan. Some of the old trolley poles are still there! And as mentioned before, an IRT branch off of Eastern Pkwy should be built instead to reduce this amount of cost, except the (3) should be rerouted there instead of the (5). Look at ridership at the Crown Heights-Utica Ave station now. If you check out the MTA report I sourced for the Rogers Junction rebuild you can see the two options. BED-STUY, BROOKLYN A person was hit and killed by a train at Utica Avenue station in Bed-Stuy on Wednesday morning, according to the MTA and FDNY. Weekends the 3 runs in Bkyln so it can serve New Lots as usual on weekends. 3 trains dont go to Brooklyn late nights. My thinking is that the train has to slow down and then speed up for the stop in the station anyway. The other spur would have led up Myrtle Ave. where the line would split again. Youve presented an excellent case for ruling out Williamsburg. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. Taking this one step further this also supposes that, as the Worth St Line was to serve a similar catchment area as the BMT Centre Street Line (J train) that the new subways through the Lower East Side would replace the Centre St Line, thus leaving it up for abandonment (if this seems too preposterous keep in mind that half of this line is already, for all intents and purposes, abandoned). The first option is a bit luxurious and is unlikely to happen. Theres only four local stations and it could probably crawl through three of them in a skip-stop with the C. You were playing around with skip-stop on Nostrand; maybe itd make sense here. Looking at Census data based on commuting patterns of riders coming from the two zip codes along Utica Ave the primary destination for most riders is downtown Brooklyn with Midtown West second. Fake it. Hey, that was me. Thanks for listening Vanshnooken! Flatbush Ave is extra wide along this section and the median would be used to create a safer traffic pattern. I know this is something that the City wont consider if they ever release their Utica Ave plan which is why I want to start the discussion now. Allows handicap access via one elevator instead of three. and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. 34 St- Penn Station. something like that on pillars in refurbished station? In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. The MTA studied [PDF] rebuilding this junction in 2009 and came up with two plans. Arent they doing So your service pattern would look something like this, which is perfectly doable, north of 63rd Q, T to Fulton local, 15TPH each It stands to reason, then, that the massive South 4th Subway with branches to Utica Ave and along Myrtle Ave was designed to replace the Broadway and Myrtle Ave Els as well. from those two subway stations There were blocked stairways up from the platform level to the upper level that were removed during the station's renovation. Its more of a nice-to-have thing, but all that needs to be fixed is Myrtle Interlocking and the curve at Cypress Hills, which are 1000x more cheaper. Eastern Parkway & Utica Avenue. [23], The station's full-time exit is at the east end (railroad south) of the platforms. Checking schedules for the A and C tells me that they max out at 17, leaving 9 slots for Utica St. service. If so, it could be served by alternate runs of the E or as a second express provided a suitable terminal could be found. Constructed in 1923, Union Station served the . I just noticed not just the rough formatting and typos but Id accidentally truncated my handle to H. And I though drafting it offline would reduce mistakes! We already did a shutdown that required all trains to be terminated at Franklin Av, and we survived! Located at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, it is served by the A train at all times and the C train at all times except late nights. Subway to Williamsburg Bridge proposal.. Abandoned Stations List; . Despite this residents of southern and southeastern Brooklyn would continually oppose any plan that involved elevated trains (even extensions of the Nostrand Ave Line as an elevated were blocked). Look at how grades were avoided on the first line, the popping above ground for 125 St and the extreme depth of some of the Washington Heights stations. North of Fulton theres a park for it to curve through, similar to your design for the Second Ave. An article today about from Second Avenue Sagas about the 7 line extension station at Hudson Yards, awaiting passengers as the rest of the mega development is completed, reminded us of these.. Another elevator from the south mall leads to fare control.[23]. Today, police released a photo of the suspect, who is still at large. I chose to believe that rerouting the B/D to Williamsburg opens up far more possibilities. So while not impossible it is more complicated and it is dependent on an additional service running down Fulton. Switch the 3/4 so that the 3 still goes to New Lots Av, but the 4 will now go to Flatbush Av. This would also take relief off of the (B)/(Q) trains to the west. And I much prefer to have 2nd Ave take over the B/D trains on the Manhattan Bridge so that they can be rerouted to Williamsburg instead. Perhaps you are discounting the Fulton St. Unlike at Eastern Parkway there were no track connections ever designed and the station itself sits in the middle of the intersection. South of Kings Highway would be stations at Flatlands Ave, Ave N and after the line turns down Flatbush Ave, at Ave U-Kings Plaza. Gov. Between Fulton St and Eastern Parkway the crest of the ridge which runs along Long Island rises 52 feet. is still only two flights up. Existing abandoned portions: Part of a station for 6 tracks, with four island platforms. If we are going to think outside the box, we ust consider the people who will be having trains running through their buildings while a stop is not even placed within walking distance. This also makes me question realigning existing radial services into SAS. THE IRT IS 3/4 THE SIZE OF THE IND/BMT FOR A REASON. Might But the question is what is more dire, commuters coming from Wall St (with their many different subway options) or those coming from Williamsburg (with the congested L)? The Canarsie and Myrtle Lines. I will say that the Utica stop spacing is fine; its not any wider than the Queens Boulevard local and it stops at every intersecting street with a frequent bus connection. [15] The underground portion of the line became known as the Eastern Parkway Line, or Route 12, while the elevated portion became known as the New Lots Line. and would cost a TON less money, I think like 10x less even with politicians, and would meet up at some kind of terminal like Times Square. But you are right, at G/J/M/Z transfer would be best! A new station would therefore have to be built below the existing 3/4 Utica Ave station before continuing south. Mayor Bill de Blasio has asked the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to examine bringing No. Off-center over roadway. These technological limitations were shortly overcome and the only IRT line that doesnt use part of this original line is the 7 which is limited by the Steinway Tunnel. As for late nights and weekends why not just extend the 6? Many transit activists I talk to refuse any plan which would take a single building but this is unrealistic in any city. The first plan offers the highest operational flexibility and allows a continuation of both local and express trains to access Nostrand Ave but would cost close to $1 billion and require extensive excavation. Going further the stations could even be built by private developers who would get a height bonus for building the station. Located at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street in BedfordStuyvesant, Brooklyn, it is served by the A train at all times and the C train at all times except late nights. But for Brooklyn, maybe 4? . And thats a jump I dont think we could ever make. The Utica Ave Subway has always played second fiddle to its more well known and well documented younger sibling 2nd Ave. This was built into the station as a provision for the proposed Utica Avenue Line, which is why the station itself has no exits to Utica Avenue. I disagree that people can just simply take a bus, but extending the Nostrand Av line south is needed. The only elevated line that the IND ever built was the Culver Viaduct between Carroll St and 4th Ave-9th Sts and this was done in a similar way. We dont need to build out some perfect system when IRT is good enough. Subway, local and express station, ADA accessible. But can a three way switch be built between Nostrand, President, and Franklin? In California money itd be about 2. Half a political lifetime ago, Bill de Blasio seemed interested in extending transit to under-served neighborhoods on his own. Despite his influence as Senate Majority Leader, the Utica Avenue subway may never leave the station. I would extend the (2)/(5) to Voorhies, with a possible skip-stop to speed up commutes.Otherwise, I agree that this is option MTA will opt for most. And actually Flushing/Main might be up to 11th now depending on how much traffic SAS has pulled off of Lexington. For future expansion of the system we need to be open to thinking outside the box. The victim was found. The biggest issue I have with you routings is that it ignores the changes that need to happen at Rogers Junction. But that off-road el idea is just too cool to pass up (I love your picture of the Chicago train going through the building). The Flushing Line viaduct cleans up real nice But this does not deal with the immediate needs of those that live along Utica Ave. Building an extension of the IRT could be opened long before the section through northern Brooklyn and would have immediate benefits by serving more riders with direct service rather than requiring transferring. So feeding more traffic into LEX which is so crowded while it actually misses the work destinations for most of these new riders might not be the best way to go. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. Its an extremely clever plan that I and many other would have never of came up with but there are some wholes that are worth being built up. Merchant groups arent going to sue you for driving their business away. The New Lots branch of the IRT ascends to the surface right after it leaves Eastern Parkway (due very much to the terrain) and it would make sense that the IRT would have the Utica Line do the same. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. Between Avenue O and Fillmore St is an MTA bus maintenance facility which can be rebuilt to have a small yard on the roof. Have a design contest; results The Utica Avenue extension in particular has been proposed several times as part of the New York City Transit Authority's 1968 expansion proposals, in older pre-unification plans, and in the competing pre-unification expansion plans of the Independent Subway System (IND). [2] The Reid Avenue El station, which was originally named Utica Avenue and was formerly above the current subway station, closed on May 31, 1940.[5]. Trains are one of the oldest forms of transportation out there, which means abandoned depots are scattered all across the country. blend into hilly terrain. Meaning that in order for a IND to run down Utica Av, Utica Av would have to be destroyed and rebuilt around the same area of the 3/4 station. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. This leads me to propose that the first part of the plan to be built is the Utica Ave stretch from Eastern Parkway to Kings Plaza connecting to the IRT Eastern Parkway Line but with provisions for a future extension north (all tunnels would be built to the larger B division specs). Same with Crown Heights-Utica Av. 8. Abandoned Jerome Post Office (Jerome) This mile-high town in the Black Hills of Yavapai County was once a thriving mining community where rich stores of copper, gold and silver ore were discovered in the late 19 th century. PABT-Times Square awkward? Late nights/weekends the 4 will go to Kings Plaza. Not that it would do anything for tunnel though. Where do you get 10TPH from? MTA. Even with CBTC you are limited to about 10-12 tph on each of the (now) three local services (it most definitely does not turn out 15tph on both local service now, closer to 15tph for both combined). It was the result of a partnership between the Hopi tribe and a group of Route 66 aficionados who are dedicated to preserving the heritage of this iconic road. Knowing the reality of MTA construction I would argue that the second plan is the preferable option. [31], For the station at Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, see, Elevator at northwest corner of Utica Avenue and Eastern Parkway, in Eastern Parkway median, Last edited on 30 November 2022, at 09:22, Utica Avenue station (IND Fulton Street Line), "Facts and Figures: Annual Subway Ridership 20142019", "Subway to Brooklyn Opened for Traffic; First Regular Passenger Train Went Under the East River Early This Morning. You took the time to write a response but not to read what I wrote? The current switch layout requires that local trains merge directly in front of express trains causing delays and capacity constrains. What companies run services between Newark Penn Station, NJ, USA and Utica Avenue Station, NY, USA? The I-beams and other steel work along the track walls are painted in dark blue. Thank you. Utica Avenue Subway Station. I dont really see the need for a peak direction track this far out. NEW YORK, NY - Police are seeking a man who allegedly exposed himself and performed a 'lewd act' in the presence of a 21-year-old female subway passenger. Or just stay on your train. Everything else is a single or double story commercial or light industrial building, parking lot, and one school. street-side condemnation would be for the head-houses. They will have wider entries, pathways and platforms so they wont have to be rebuilt to greater capacity later, as is being done to so many of them now. There are also some windows in this level. By the way Vanschnooken, I really like your operations-focused outlook; I like that you used your custom track map as a base for all of the ideas you proposed, since tweaking your operations is usually a lot cheaper and effective in the long run. Look at the ceiling from the open platform, and at the mezzanine area at the north end. B46 Utica and Eastern Parkway. Yet youd have it built to B division clearances. But the plan wound up being abandoned after the IND subway was built along Central Park West. Its got limitations now, sure. 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There was a gas station, a gift shop, and Valentine's diner in the post. From a strictly design point of view there are two main reasons that Utica has never gotten off the drawing boards. [3] from Eastern Parkway to Flatbush Avenue, extending the #4 by four miles. With subway costs so high els may be the only way to go. Imagine what kinds of service could be offered if that block-long tunnel was ever built! The subway itself would run straight down Utica Ave with potential stations at Empire Blvd, Linden Blvd-Church Ave and Clarendon Rd. The Board of Rapid Transit Commissioners approved the route on September 27, 1900,[6] and the contract was signed on September 11, 1902. The Livonia Avenue branch line, known as Route No. The line was proposed to cut across town to Columbus Circle, one avenue block away. It was first constructed as the Eighth Avenue Line in Manhattan in 1932.. 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